Emily Ladau:
Hi, I’m Emily Ladau.
Kyle Khachadurian:
And I’m Kyle Khachadurian.
Emily Ladau:
And you’re listening to another episode of The Accessible Stall.
Kyle Khachadurian:
What are we going to talk about today, Emily?
Emily Ladau:
Well, honestly, we tried this already and then we never posted it because things are happening so fast. But remember how Donald Trump blamed DEI for all of the world’s problems, and then specifically it was like, and by the way, disabled people basically caused the plane crash that happened in DC.
Kyle Khachadurian:
And then there was five more in the span of the month that followed that. Yeah, that sounds familiar.
Emily Ladau:
Actually, wait, I think I want this episode to be about flying because can I just tell you…
Kyle Khachadurian:
I won’t be doing that for a while. But yeah, go ahead.
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, no, not at all. But have you heard also that five of the major airlines also filed a lawsuit against the Department of Transportation saying that all of the sweeping protection that Pete Buttigieg put in place through the Department of Transportation to protect disabled people when flying is supposedly an overreach of government power.
Kyle Khachadurian:
That’s rich.
Emily Ladau:
And now they are suing to undo those regulations, which translation means we don’t want to protect the wheelchairs.
Kyle Khachadurian:
As if they ever did. I mean, I know that’s what the protections were put in there for. But come on, that does nothing but harm you and people like you specifically. There’s no, what’s the upside? Somebody tell me. Somebody tell me. I want you to explain it to me like I’m five.
Emily Ladau:
They save money supposedly. They don’t want to be held accountable.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I don’t care. Is an airline ever held accountable for anything?
Emily Ladau:
No. Although apparently, I think I read that the people who were in the airplane that went belly up in Toronto-
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, flipped over.
Emily Ladau:
…$30,000. I was like, if you think that $30,000 is enough for that trauma, are you joking?
Kyle Khachadurian:
You would never… If they offered that before they even got out of the plane, you know you can get more. You don’t even, you kidding me? I’d have to be in therapy for the rest of my life.
Emily Ladau:
I want the airline-
Kyle Khachadurian:
I couldn’t sleep anymore.
Emily Ladau:
…to pay my therapy bills. No, it’s unreal. But also I mean I’m joking, but also I’m feeling afraid of getting on an airplane now because I don’t want to die. But also more than that, I think this is the thing that people don’t understand unless they’re disabled. If I get on an airplane and my wheelchair gets damaged, you’ve just broken my legs and how do I move around? I mean, that’s really what it comes down to.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, I’ve thought about, I mean, I don’t have that exact same problem, but I can’t get out of a plane. I’m the first to get trampled. I’m tiny and slow.
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, yeah. If a plane crash happens, how do you get out?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, like somehow survive, yeah I don’t. I’d die. That’s just what happens, assuming that…
Emily Ladau:
You accept your fate when you get on the airplane?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Hundred percent, 100%. I hate that but…
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, I’m not sitting in an exit row.
Kyle Khachadurian:
No, I do lie to them. Sorry.
Emily Ladau:
But also, I really do wonder if in that moment, would humanity be good and help me or would they just be like, “Sorry, you’re dead weight and we’re going to leave you here”?
Kyle Khachadurian:
I think somebody would try to help you. I don’t think it’ll be anyone officially, official like with the airline. I think there can’t be zero good Samaritans on a plane. That’s statistically-
Emily Ladau:
No, I know. I do think people are still sort of somewhat mostly good, I don’t know.
Kyle Khachadurian:
In aggregate, sure, yeah, I think so. Maybe that’s not even me, but I do.
Emily Ladau:
We must have talked about this. This was years ago. My mom and I had to pull over to the side of the road because a hospital waste garbage truck had a bag that flew out of it. And the bag got stuck under my car, and so I had to pull over because I had this burning biohazard waste under my car. And my car was not in flames or anything but it was melting to the bottom of the car.
And the person who pulled over to help us was one of those giant black pickup trucks with the Trump stickers all over it and the like don’t tread on me and the like gun rights sticker. He was the one who helped us and who was like, I don’t know how to reconcile this in my head.
Kyle Khachadurian:
That’s a sitcom of some sort, like bad sitcom episode or something.
Emily Ladau:
For sure, yeah. The lesson remains. I don’t like that guy, but he did come in handy in the moment.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Well, he doesn’t like you either, but I bet he felt really good about helping you.
Emily Ladau:
I’m sure he did. I mean, he saw two damsels in distress on the side of the road, and I don’t have any political bumper stickers on my car, so I guess he was like, “All right.”
Kyle Khachadurian:
I think people who do are braver than me.
Emily Ladau:
The political bumper stickers?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, any of them. I don’t even care what… I mean, I care what they are, but I think anyone who does that is slightly more brave than me because…
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, I can’t really wear my heart on my sleeve like that anymore. It makes me nervous.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, I was going to say, it’s more that I don’t really care to voice my opinion out in public, but what am I doing right now? So it’s not that I don’t know what it is.
Emily Ladau:
I mean, I’d still wear a political T-shirt, I think. But for some reason, when you’re both in giant cars which are just killing machines basically, I don’t want you to run me off the road because you don’t like my views. That sounds scary. How did we get here?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Just run me off the road anyway. That’d be fun.
Emily Ladau:
Anyway, disabled people absolutely did not cause the plane crash. And I know that at this point, we’re like five centuries late in having this conversation. But the thing is that there’s too much to keep up with. And unless we literally put this podcast out five minutes after we record it, something else is going to happen.
Kyle Khachadurian:
It is exhausting. It is truly exhausting. And I know that there are resources like Project 2025 Tracker is a great one, if you guys haven’t heard of it. It is depressing, but it’s good. But even there’s so much beyond that. It’s just so many things happen every day. It’s only been a month.
Emily Ladau:
I have a recommendation for resource.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Sure. What is it?
Emily Ladau:
There is this website, it’s Disability Rights Watch, and it’s just disability-rights-watch.com. And each week, it kind of gives a recap of what’s been happening in regard to disability rights. And it’s just like an easy go-to compilation of the major things that are happening related to disability. And I’m pretty sure that it’s curated by a deaf author named Sara Novic because I’ve been seeing Sara post it on Instagram and then putting this compilation into a website template. But either way…
Kyle Khachadurian:
Nice.
Emily Ladau:
It’s been a helpful, condensed version of things for me.
Kyle Khachadurian:
That’s very cool.
Emily Ladau:
Would recommend if you’re just looking for someone to parse all of this nonsense for you. So there’s that resource. But yeah, it has felt like a hundred years have happened already. And last time Kyle and I tried to record this episode, we somehow got incredibly derailed into a conversation about ice cream.
Kyle Khachadurian:
It was a good conversation.
Emily Ladau:
Oh wait, I need to backtrack for a second because I was trying to say something helpful, but then also you said like, “Oh, it’s exhausting,” and I was like, “Your New Yorker is showing.” But I’m like a New Yorker too, so what am I even talking about?
Kyle Khachadurian:
It’s true, but it is though. I have a story for you after this.
Emily Ladau:
You have a story for me, but not everybody else?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Just you.
Emily Ladau:
Sorry y’all.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah. You’ll hear this eventually, don’t worry. It just happens to be relevant to what you said. And if I don’t say this out loud on the show, I’ll forget to tell you. But yet keeping track of him and of course the real king of the country, Elon Musk, I was saying this to someone the other day. This is something I’m brave enough to say on the show. I am not anti-immigrant. I have never been. I am the grandchild of immigrants.
Elon Musk is about to make me anti-immigrant, man. I swear to God. Am I wrong, isn’t he? Is he not the greatest proof of concept for everything that those stupid… I’m going to have to censor the entire sentence.
Emily Ladau:
Please censor that entire sentence.
Kyle Khachadurian:
But they like him, so it’s fine. I’m not anti-immigrant at all. It’s just a lot ironic.
Emily Ladau:
Well, I’m hopeful that people understand the sentiment there is that Elon Musk himself is an immigrant who’s just decided that it doesn’t count that he’s an immigrant.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah.
Emily Ladau:
Which is so bonkers to me. I don’t even know. But okay, can we actually, for real, talk about this DEI thing? Because I know that the whole point is that the administration wants us to be all over the place and not be able to focus on any one thing long enough to fight it. But the specific drilling down into what words are okay to use is just absolutely mind-bending and mind-boggling to me.
And it’s interesting because you and I have done an episode before on jargon and in speak, and I am the first person to be like, stop using jargon and just say what you mean. But the thing is I don’t know how to get any more clear about what you mean than to say accessibility. Except for now, companies and clients and people who I’m engaging with have been requesting that we use more terminology like usability and ease of use. And I’m like-
Kyle Khachadurian:
Those mean different things also. I mean, I would say that accessibility helps, sure. Accessibility helps both things and both things in form and help accessibility. But alone, those mean entirely different. I mean, you know this, I don’t know why I’m saying this out loud, but that’s no, no, no, no, no, no.
Emily Ladau:
Well, because I’m not the only one listening to you.
Kyle Khachadurian:
That’s true. Well, that’s true. Right now you are. But it’s like the other thing… Sorry, I’m just, I get so tilted about this. If you are against DEI, if you’re someone who is against DEI just do me a favor. Can you just tell me what those letters stand for and which part specifically if you know, because I doubt you know? But if you do, tell me which one of those letters you like the most and why? I need you, I really want you to say it, say it, say it. It’s a roving salute. Do it. Do it.
Emily Ladau:
Diversity is a fact. So you can be against diversity all you want, but the thing is like human diversity is just a fact. Equity simply means that people have what they need to thrive, and that some people are set up already for more success than other people. And so sometimes, we can take actions to make sure that certain people are also given the supports they need in case they’re at a disadvantage to also be set up for success. So I’m very sorry to the people who are afraid that someone else’s success is going to outdo their own success.
Kyle Khachadurian:
When you light a candle with another candle, the first flame doesn’t go anywhere. But I’m sorry, do go on.
Emily Ladau:
No, actually I just saw that quote in someone’s email signature the other day, and I was like, that’s a great quote. I actually love that.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I understand why it upsets them though, because they’re mediocre white people. Men, mediocre white guys that didn’t really have to do much to get to where they are. And it hurts. It hurts when you see a qualified person who’s different than you who’s smarter than you in your same position. It must feel really annoying. My name is Kyle. I understand, but no, no.
Emily Ladau:
You need to start like a Kyle support group.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I don’t agree with it to be clear. I think you’re all wrong and out of your minds and discussing that’s the biggest, most important one. But if I’m you, which I’m not, but my name is Kyle, it would hurt my feelings. But you know why it doesn’t? Because I don’t give a shit.
Emily Ladau:
Because actually if we stop all this nonsense, there would be more than enough to go around for everyone. Anyway, so let’s just, okay, go back to breaking down the D, the E and the I.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Oh, sorry. Yes. You were on the I.
Emily Ladau:
No, no, sorry. This was a worthwhile diversion. But the I, you see inclusion, means people other than you get to have a seat at the table. But I guess we’re upset because we want all the chairs, even though our butt can only fit into one of them.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yes. Obviously the chairs look good empty, Emily. The chairs are supposed to be empty. Emily, they look better empty.
Emily Ladau:
Right, because they really just need to hold space for their mediocrity. And they need a lot of empty chairs to do that.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah. Well, but it’s like if the chairs aren’t empty, then you can’t maintain the illusion that you aren’t mediocre because you’re doing all of this by yourself in this analogy.
Emily Ladau:
Or not that the chairs are empty, but that everyone in the chairs also looks like you.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Oh, yeah. I mean, that’s right.
Emily Ladau:
Oh, and while we’re at it, sitting is for the weak, and DEI does not allow sitting. So there are no chairs at the table.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Except for my chair.
Emily Ladau:
Because I get a chair. I still get to sit. Oh, my God.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Well, not my chair. I’m disabled.
Emily Ladau:
No, yeah, no, I know.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Elon, I’m sure.
Emily Ladau:
This is all in jest, but okay. And then the accessibility and usability thing, if something is accessible, it is going to be usable for everyone. Why are-
Kyle Khachadurian:
Accessible things are accessible. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Please go on. I’m so sorry. I ended up going-
Emily Ladau:
Why are we so upset about this? I actually don’t understand. I mean, the thing is that I do understand, but I don’t understand what I understand. Do you know what I mean?
Kyle Khachadurian:
You don’t even know any disabled people. What do you care about accessibility, you piece of…
Emily Ladau:
Every person with CPs, startle reflex just went off.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I know. I know. I just committed a sin against my people. I’m so sorry.
Emily Ladau:
I was literally putting a dish in the sink today and it knocked over the pile of other dishes. And mind you, I don’t keep a pile of dishes in the sink, but once a day we load the dishwasher, and so we just keep them in the sink until we load them. But I was moving something out of my way, and I set off my own startle reflex so bad just putting the dish in the sink.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I forget you… Okay. Sorry. It’s high time. So for those who don’t know, humans all have a startle reflex. It’s a reflex that is supposed to keep us alive if we’re dropped in water as children, like babies. And when you turn about, what, six or eight months, something like that, it turns off unless you have CP. And apparently what Emily’s got too, so I forget that you have one.
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, lucky me.
Kyle Khachadurian:
It sucks. Isn’t it so annoying?
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, it is very, very annoying. But anyway, DEI, ABJ, Accessibility, Belonging, Justice, I mean, call it when-
Kyle Khachadurian:
Those are new. In what edition of the leftist handbook did those get added?
Emily Ladau:
You have any heard the new ones?
Kyle Khachadurian:
No. And how many letters are in the non-standard sexuality soup, non-standard being, of course, non-heteronormative. I know they’re all standard. I stan all sexualities.
Emily Ladau:
As far as I understand right now, and please genuinely would like to know if there are more, LGBTQIAS, no, two S.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Emily Ladau:
Yeah.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Cool.
Emily Ladau:
Plus.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Nice. Yeah. Yeah, for everybody else. Cool. I’ll put that to memory.
Emily Ladau:
So look, I get it. The left, we have a lot of acronyms. We have a lot of words.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Do you know, this is tangentially related, what drives me up a wall? Truly, it makes me very angry.
Emily Ladau:
What?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Is when I go to read a piece of news and I can’t. And I don’t mind paying for news, it’s just that I can go to Breitbart.com and all that news is free. I mean, it’s not news. It’s not news, but they think it is. And that’s free. And that piece of company that Ben Shapiro runs, that’s free. I hate that. I hate that so much.
Emily Ladau:
I will argue though that good journalism requires paying people.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Oh, it absolutely does. I’m not, you’ll never hear me say it doesn’t. Just make referrals from social free, please, or at least put it on a timer or something.
Emily Ladau:
And also, the reason that I think so many of these garbage conservative news outlets can be free is because conservatives are hoarding all the money and using it to fund them.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah. They fund each other, of course. No, I hate it. I hate it.
Emily Ladau:
Oh, I too also hate it, yes. I don’t even know what the point of this episode is. Let’s talk about ice cream. What’s your favorite flavor?
Kyle Khachadurian:
What did I say last time?
Emily Ladau:
It’s a great question. I don’t know that you did. I feel like you did mint chocolate chip for a while, though.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I hate mint chocolate chip.
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, I know.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Hate it. I am never not in the mood for vanilla, like real vanilla though. Real vanilla, “Oh, it’s plain.” No, it’s not you flat-tasted… Delicious.
Emily Ladau:
Are so sassy today.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I’m not in the mood. Just talking about gross people puts me in a very particular mood.
Emily Ladau:
I particularly like Ben & Jerry’s New York Super Fudge Chunk in case anyone wanted a very specific ice cream flavor.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Now, if we’re going to be very specific, I do have two favorite Ben & Jerry’s flavors, Chunky Monkey and Americone Dream.
Emily Ladau:
Okay. Both excellent flavors.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Thank you. I love yours too.
Emily Ladau:
I live across from a Ben & Jerry’s.
Kyle Khachadurian:
This is sounding familiar. Okay. Yes, you do.
Emily Ladau:
Yes. This is what I was starting to say last time. And also where I used to live, I lived across from a Carvel, so I’ve just spent my whole life growing up across from ice cream places.
Kyle Khachadurian:
How do you, the smell is just so enticing.
Emily Ladau:
I mean…
Kyle Khachadurian:
It’s like cartoon character on a window sill.
Emily Ladau:
What? I really enjoy ice cream, but sometimes it leaves an aftertaste and sometimes I don’t know. But okay, anyway, I do also have to have gluten-free, so I can’t have all the fun ice cream flavors. I have to just make sure that they’re safe for me to eat first.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I think Chunky Monkey is gluten-free. I believe it is.
Emily Ladau:
It probably is.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Because ice cream doesn’t have any gluten in it.
Emily Ladau:
On the Ben & Jerry’s website googling. Oh, Chunky Monkey, gluten-free.
Kyle Khachadurian:
How did I know that? That probably came up last time, I think. Maybe, who knows?
Emily Ladau:
I don’t know. I don’t know if I remember that. But anyway, okay. This is all very important information that you all needed to know about my dietary requirements. How is everybody coping? What are you doing right now?
Kyle Khachadurian:
I’m not. I’m not, is what I’m doing right now. I try to, I know you weren’t asking me, but what I try to do is I try to-
Emily Ladau:
No, I actually was asking you, but I was also hoping that other people at home would be like, “Well, thanks for asking, Emily.”
Kyle Khachadurian:
Emily doesn’t cope. I don’t know. It feels irresponsible to not doom scroll. Oh, get off social media, you’ll feel better. It’s like, yeah, but you won’t know. That’s why you’ll feel better because you will, by definition, be less informed.
Listen, if it’s genuinely making you upset and ruining your life, do it. Don’t scroll. But I personally feel worse when I’m not informed. I’ve tried it. It makes me feel worse to not know.
Emily Ladau:
No, I think that’s really real. That’s what I struggle with too, because I can easily fall into the trap of doom scrolling, but I do actually want to know and understand what is happening. And so I’m trying to find the balance between being informed and not being overwhelmed, and I think-
Kyle Khachadurian:
And your own personal happiness.
Emily Ladau:
I mean, the best thing that I have found, I read primarily the news in the morning through the New York Times, sends the morning update email newsletter.
Kyle Khachadurian:
They do.
Emily Ladau:
So I click through the headlines there, and then I’m kind of like, okay, I can’t handle too much more today, but I’m informed.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I think that’s a way to be, yeah, responsible doom scrolling.
Emily Ladau:
I don’t know, how do you get your news? What’s your go-to?
Kyle Khachadurian:
I don’t love the Times, to be honest. They’re a little too lib for me, but I go to them first, and then there’s APs and Reuters. And Al Jazeera English is pretty good.
Emily Ladau:
A little too lib?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, like Liberal, capital L Liberal.
Emily Ladau:
Interesting.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I’m too reluctant to them. I don’t hate their news. I really do hate their opinions though. I don’t like their opinions.
Emily Ladau:
Oh, they have have horrible garbage opinion pieces. Occasionally, they have some good ones, but I mean some-
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, but they’re rarer. I’m not saying, by the way, I don’t want anyone to hear that I need to read news that I agree with. I don’t. Since 2016 with the New York Times in particular, although I could say this for pretty much any mass media, the Capital L Liberal bias of that outlet. And I mean that in a literal way, not in an American way, has made itself very apparent. And some people love that. I don’t, yeah. I’m not shaming people who like it.
Emily Ladau:
The whole thing that happened with the AP where they were banned from covering White House stuff, and then everybody signed onto a newsletter. All of these news outlets, including apparently Fox News signed onto a letter saying that you can’t just ban AP from…
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, I didn’t hear that at all. But the AP is where like, that’s where everyone else gets their news from. If you ban the AP, I know what you’re trying to do, you fascist dictator piece of… But it’s the AP. Have you considered not doing terrible… Do you know if you’re the president-
Emily Ladau:
You’re really asking too much now.
Kyle Khachadurian:
If you’re the president, you can just not do terrible… because everything you do, good or bad actually as it turns out, is news because you’re the president. So if you just do, I’m not even saying you have to do good, because I know you’re physically incapable of doing that. If you just don’t do bad for 24 hours, that’ll be news. Free advice.
Emily Ladau:
That would be, it would be news. You’re absolutely right. Okay. I don’t want people to feel overwhelmed. So I think that we should end on the note of, we talked about favorite ice cream flavors but what’s your go-to comfort food right now or comfort TV show? How are you taking care of yourself?
Kyle Khachadurian:
I have been eating a lot of potatoes.
Emily Ladau:
Potatoes? Tell me more.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Well, I bought too many, and I have… But have you ever just had a potato baked?
Emily Ladau:
Oh, I find-
Kyle Khachadurian:
Underrated.
Emily Ladau:
You were talking like eat it like an apple?
Kyle Khachadurian:
No, no. That’s gross and I’m pretty sure poisonous if you eat enough of them. Although, no, it’s, yeah.
Emily Ladau:
I personally like mashed potatoes and french fries. Also, to bring it back to cream-
Kyle Khachadurian:
I’ve never, never had potato-
Emily Ladau:
Dipping french fries into ice cream is delicious.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Underrated.
Emily Ladau:
I have not been eating a lot of potatoes in particular. I don’t really know. Been watching a lot of silly TV currently doing a rewatch of The Mindy Project.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I’m watching The Other Two right now. It’s fantastic.
Emily Ladau:
I love that show. Is this your first time watching it?
Kyle Khachadurian:
I can’t believe you didn’t recommend. I’m not mad at you really, but I’m like, “Damn, this is an Emily recommendation if I’ve ever seen one.”
Emily Ladau:
I really should have. I apologize. Well, guess what, Kyle? I recommend it.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Thank you. Well, I’m already like I’m almost done with it. It’s fine.
Emily Ladau:
Oh, okay. Are you in the third season?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yes. It’s weird.
Emily Ladau:
But yeah, they’re just trying to be artsy at that point.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I have to say, I don’t know. I can’t. I saw someone on the Metro. They were not cosplaying as Sailor Moon. They were dressed like Sailor Moon if Sailor Moon had a job in DC, but still was like… I have a rule where I don’t talk to people on or around public transit because no one wants that. But I swear to God, I almost broke it because I was like, oh my God. Because there was a huge nerd convention here a week or two ago, which I didn’t go to. That’s why I called it a nerd convention and not buy a thing because I’m mad that I didn’t buy tickets because I would’ve caught.
And I guess this person was like, “Oh, I’ll go for like three extra weeks or two extra weeks,” because I was like, but she looked so good. Not attractive, but I’m like, I know what you’re doing. I saw it from a mile away. I’m like you’re Sailor Moon. Good for you. Where your other, what are they called, Sailor Scouts? I don’t know. It’s been a while.
Emily Ladau:
I’ve never watched Sailor Moon.
Kyle Khachadurian:
You would hate it. In fact, I can’t think of a show you would hate more truly.
Emily Ladau:
I don’t love animated stuff.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I know. It’s really, it’s a-
Emily Ladau:
Well, now I’m canceled. Okay. It’s been a good run.
Kyle Khachadurian:
First time? And let’s see.
Emily Ladau:
What’s your final takeaway? Unless you want to share more TV shows.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Oh, you know what else is back? White Lotus, you should watch that.
Emily Ladau:
I didn’t really like the second season, but I am going to watch the third season. Oh, here is a recommendation. Here’s my recommendation, Traitors. Watch Traitors.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Like traitor like espionage, or trader like people who trade?
Emily Ladau:
No, Traitors like espionage. It’s basically like a bunch of minor, very minor celebrities and reality TV show people live together in a castle. And Alan Cumming is the host and they all compete to try to guess who the traitors are and who the faithfuls are. And the traitors are murderers and they murder people in the game. It’s really fun.
Kyle Khachadurian:
That does sound fun. My final takeaway is don’t forget to be kind to yourself and make sure to have fun in these trying times. Honestly, don’t forget to take care of yourself because you need to. It feels like low priority because I’ll do that later and then later we’ll never come. Make time for yourself.
Emily Ladau:
My final takeaway is eat the ice cream if you want it.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Always order dessert if you can afford it.
Emily Ladau:
And everyone deserves dessert.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah. I always say you look-
Emily Ladau:
I was just going to say that. You look good today.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Who are we shouting out?
Emily Ladau:
Everyone who did not vote for the current person in office.
Kyle Khachadurian:
You look wonderful. You’re a 10 today and every day. Yeah, especially you, Steve.
Emily Ladau:
Steve specifically. That’s my father-in-law’s name.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Does he listen?
Emily Ladau:
No. Good guy really liked him.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Oh, well. I mean, I wasn’t talking about, I was not thinking about any specific Steve, but now I am. He’s going to be like, “Man, she mentioned you on a podcast.” She’s going to go on a long road trip like, “I wonder what they’re doing.” It’s been really weird.
Emily Ladau:
You do look good today. All of you. All of you are beautiful. Thank you so much for listening and for real, you are not alone in this mess.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Please reach out. We got you.
Emily Ladau:
Love you.
Kyle Khachadurian:
We do love you.
Emily Ladau:
Thanks so much for listening.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Support us on Patreon. If you go to Patreon.com/TheAccessibleStall, just $1 a month ensures that all current and future episodes of The Accessible Stall remain what?
Emily Ladau:
Accessible.
Kyle Khachadurian:
This is particularly relevant in the month of February when we’re recording this because we just paid our hosting bill this month. Please, if you’re willing and able, donate to our Patreon. Thank you. We love you.
Emily Ladau:
Okay. Bye.
Kyle Khachadurian:
See you next time. See you later. See you next time. See you next time.